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1 intelligence community.
2 I'm here with my colleagues. I would like
3 to take the opportunity to explain in some detail
4 Section 702. Given this is a public hearing, and
5 hopefully the public will be watching, our efforts
6 to provide transparency in terms of how we protect
7 the privacy and civil liberties of our American
8 citizens needs to be explained. The program needs
9 to be understood. So I appreciate your patience as
10 I talk through in my opening statement the value of
11 702 to our intelligence community and to keeping
12 Americans safe.
13 Intelligence collection under Section 702,
14 FISA amendments, has produced and continues to
15 produce significant intelligence that is vital to
16 protect the nation against international terrorism,
17 against cyber threats, weapons proliferators, and
18 other threats. At the same time, Section 702
19 provides strong protections for the privacy and
20 civil liberties of our citizens.
21 Today, the horrific attacks that recently
22 have occurred in Europe are still at the top of my
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1 Senator.
2 SENATOR RUBIO: No one has anything to add
3 to that?
4 VOICE: I don't understand the question.
5 SENATOR RUBIO: The question is, are you
6 aware of any efforts by anyone in the White House or
7 the executive branch looking for advice from other
8 members of the intelligence community about how to
9 potentially influence an investigation?
10 MR. McCABE: You talking about me? No.
11 ADMIRAL ROGERS: No.
12 SENATOR RUBIO: Okay. Who wants to answer?
13 I'm sorry.
14 MR. McCABE: I'm not sure I understand the
15 question, but if you're asking whether we -- I'm
16 aware of requests to other people in the
17 intelligence community, I am not.
18 SENATOR RUBIO: Seeking advice on how it
19 could potentially influence someone, you're not
20 aware --
21 MR. McCABE: I'm not aware --
22 SENATOR RUBIO: -- of anyone ever saying or
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1 public.
2 Now let me --
3 DIRECTOR COATS: Senator, can I answer the
4 question?
5 SENATOR WYDEN: Mr. Director, my time is
6 short, and I want to ask you about one other 702 --
7 DIRECTOR COATS: Well, I would like to
8 answer your question.
9 SENATOR WYDEN: Briefly.
10 DIRECTOR COATS: What I pledged to you in my
11 confirmation hearing is that I would make every
12 effort to try to find out why we were not able to
13 come to a specific number of collection on U.S.
14 persons. I told you I would consult with Admiral
15 Rogers. I told you I would go to the National
16 Security Agency to try to determine whether or not I
17 was able to do that. I went out there, I talked to
18 them. They went through the technical details.
19 There were extensive efforts on the part
20 of -- I learned, on the parts of NSA to try to come
21 to get you an appropriate answer. We were not able
22 to do that.
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1 know when you wrote the memo that was used as the
2 primary justification for firing Director Comey that
3 the Administration would be using it as the primary
4 justification?
5 MR. ROSENSTEIN: Senator, I know you're
6 aware, I have -- there are a number of documents
7 associated with me that are in the public record.
8 The memorandum I wrote concerning Director Comey is
9 in the public record. The order appointing the
10 special counsel is in the public record. The press
11 release I issued accompanying that order is in the
12 public record and a written version of the statement
13 that I delivered to --
14 SENATOR HEINRICH: Were you aware that --
15 MR. ROSENSTEIN: 100 United States --
16 SENATOR HEINRICH: -- the primary
17 justification for his firing --
18 MR. ROSENSTEIN: Pardon me, Senator.
19 SENATOR HEINRICH: -- by the administration?
20 MR. ROSENSTEIN: Pardon me, Senator. 100
21 United States Senators and 435 Congressmen is in the
22 public record. I answered many questions in the
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1 your position?
2 MR. McCABE: It is, but let me clarify,
3 Senator. I think you're referring to the exchange
4 that I had with Senator Rubio. And my
5 understanding, at least my intention in providing
6 that answer, was whether or not the firing of
7 Director Comey had had a negative impact on our
8 investigation. And my response was then and is now
9 that the FBI investigated and continues to
10 investigate, and now, of course, under the rubric of
11 the special counsel, the Russian investigation in a
12 appropriate and unimpeded way. Before Director
13 Comey was fired and since he's been gone.
14 SENATOR BLUNT: Well, I think as I recall
15 that conversation, it was a discussion about whether
16 there were plenty of resources, whether the funding
17 was adequate, and what you were reported to have
18 said -- I haven't looked at the exact transcript,
19 but I have looked at the news article -- was that
20 you were aware of no effort to impede the Russian
21 investigation?
22 MR. McCABE: We did talk about resource
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1 still talking.
2 SENATOR KING: So then I'll ask both of you
3 the same question: Why are you not answering these
4 questions? Is there an invocation by the President
5 of the United States of executive privilege? Is
6 there or not?
7 ADMIRAL ROGERS: Not that I'm aware of.
8 SENATOR KING: Then why are you not
9 answering our questions?
10 ADMIRAL ROGERS: Because I feel it is
11 inappropriate, Senator.
12 SENATOR KING: What you feel isn't relevant,
13 Admiral. What you feel isn't the answer.
14 ADMIRAL ROGERS: I stand accountable --
15 SENATOR KING: The question is why are you
16 not answering the question, is it an invocation of
17 executive privilege? If there is, then let's know
18 about it. If there isn't, answer the questions.
19 ADMIRAL ROGERS: I've stand by the comments
20 I've made. I'm not interested in repeating myself,
21 sir. And I don't mean that in a -- in a -- in a
22 contentious way.
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1 cleared.
2 ADMIRAL ROGERS: Yes, sir. And, in fact,
3 we're purging the data as well. I don't know if we
4 stop doing it, but we're purging the data that we
5 had collected under the previous authorization.
6 SENATOR LANKFORD: So the issue on 702, most
7 Oklahomans that I interact with don't know the term
8 702, but if I asked them, "Should we collect
9 information on terrorist organizations and
10 terrorists overseas who are planning to carry out
11 attacks on us and our allies," they don't hesitate.
12 They say, "Absolutely, we should do that."
13 Now, they don't want collection on
14 themselves and their mom, but they absolutely want
15 us to be able to target terrorists. And so the
16 issue that I think we talk about when we talk about
17 702 on this dais, is a normal conversation back
18 home, that if we miss something internationally,
19 everyone says "I thought we were doing this. Why
20 aren't we?"
21 So I fully appreciate the civil liberties
22 conversation and the privacy questions, those are
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1 get to.
2 Today's been very difficult, by me sitting
3 here listening to some of the answers and inability
4 to answer some of the questions. If the
5 intelligence committee and the Senate cannot get
6 answers we know, in an open setting like this, are
7 these answers that we're asking, the questions that
8 we're simply asking, will they be given into a
9 classified Intel setting that we would have? Could
10 you answer differently than what you've given us in
11 an open session?
12 I think, Director Coats, you said you would
13 be able to answer differently in a --
14 DIRECTOR COATS: I think I've made that very
15 clear.
16 SENATOR MANCHIN: Yes.
17 DIRECTOR COATS: I've tried to.
18 SENATOR MANCHIN: Admiral Rogers, would you
19 be able --
20 ADMIRAL ROGERS: And, likewise, I certainly
21 hope so.
22 SENATOR MANCHIN: Mr. Rosenstein, would you?
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1 go.
2 But I would also point out that as we have
3 historically, when we are investigating sensitive
4 matters in which operational security is of utmost
5 importance, members of the intelligence community
6 typically come and brief the leadership,
7 congressional leadership, on sensitive investigative
8 matters.
9 We have done so, I have done so, Director
10 Comey has done so prior to the appointment of the
11 special counsel, and some of the questions that you
12 have asked this morning were addressed in those
13 closed, very restricted, very small settings.
14 SENATOR MANCHIN: Let me say this: If it
15 would be the desire of the Chairman and Vice
16 Chairman, if we could, since we have a classified
17 hearing scheduled for 2:00 this afternoon, would you
18 all make yourself available, since it doesn't linger
19 on? There's been a lot of questions, a lot of
20 anticipation, a lot of build up, anxiety, if you
21 will. I think you could really help an awful lot of
22 us clear the day up, if you will.
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1 expanded authority?
2 DIRECTOR COATS: Absolutely.
3 SENATOR MANCHIN: Everyone?
4 ADMIRAL ROGERS: Full support.
5 SENATOR MANCHIN: Full support there.
6 Did the President ask, or was he given any
7 specific intelligence or info concerning the Russian
8 active measures in the 2016 presidential election?
9 Was he briefed on that? Did he ask for that
10 briefing, or is it automatic briefing that you give?
11 Admiral Rogers?
12 DIRECTOR COATS: All that took place before
13 I was --
14 ADMIRAL ROGERS: I will say, yes, he was
15 briefed on the results of the intelligence community
16 assessment. I was part of that in January, prior to
17 his assuming his duties. He and I have discussed,
18 as well, the specifics of that assessment subsequent
19 to him -- after he had become the President and
20 assumed the duties.
21 SENATOR MANCHIN: Let me just say, just in
22 finishing up, I just would hope that you all with
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1 nations --
2 CHAIRMAN BURR: This is a global asset --
3 ADMIRAL ROGERS: Yes.
4 CHAIRMAN BURR: -- that the war on terror
5 has is 702.
6 ADMIRAL ROGERS: Yes, sir.
7 DIRECTOR COATS: Mr. Chairman, if I could
8 just take --
9 CHAIRMAN BURR: Yes, sir.
10 DIRECTOR COATS: -- the time you were trying
11 to protect from me, for my next appointment, to just
12 say following -- and I just want to repeat --
13 following my interaction with my contemporaries in a
14 number of European countries, they are deeply,
15 deeply grateful to us for the information derived
16 from 702, has saved, what they said, literally
17 hundreds of lives.
18 CHAIRMAN BURR: Well, certainly the
19 committee is privy to those instances in a lot of
20 cases, and we're grateful for that.
21 And, gentlemen, I want to thank you for your
22 testimony, but before we adjourn, I would ask each
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5 record of the recorded proceedings; that said
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A 85:15, 85:22, account 153:4, 153:5,
abandon 91:4, 91:17, 25:4 153:13
144:10 93:4, 93:8, accountability activity
ability 95:18, 96:18, 107:15 37:11, 76:7,
14:5, 24:13, 102:1, 103:9, accountable 76:9, 89:18,
27:17, 35:8, 103:11, 105:21, 52:15, 95:14 140:17
49:17, 50:12, 108:16, 109:1, accurate actors
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129:22, 130:21, 112:7, 112:8, 28:1, 69:2, acts
155:7 116:22, 120:2, 69:7, 86:9, 138:4
able 120:22, 121:8, 122:6, 141:13, actual
13:15, 24:5, 124:7, 128:4, 141:14, 145:22 107:6
32:10, 49:18, 129:14, 131:6, achieve actually
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70:17, 70:21, 135:17, 135:19, acknowledge 67:19, 88:5,
71:5, 105:20, 135:21, 137:22, 98:19, 105:22, 90:5, 101:10,
106:3, 107:21, 138:1, 141:15, 151:19 109:7
108:15, 109:2, 145:8, 147:2, acknowledged add
109:11, 110:5, 147:14, 147:18, 106:15 58:3, 64:2,
111:13, 111:19, 151:18 acknowledges 99:4
114:16, 122:18, abouts 36:8 added
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137:16 above 16:3, 19:17 addition
about 150:8 acquired 21:1, 34:7,
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39:18, 40:15, absolute 17:2, 30:16, 24:10, 28:6,
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6:14, 13:13, 20:22, 51:8, 45:2, 46:6, 8:20, 9:19,
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64:18, 123:16 91:3, 123:15, 48:6, 48:18, 28:19, 31:7,
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142:14 agency 58:18, 60:2, 45:11, 50:15,
adviser 2:10, 3:15, 65:20, 72:20, 51:2, 57:16,
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advocacy 40:5, 56:4, 100:14, 109:17, 60:12, 62:15,
25:11 58:15, 70:16, 109:18, 109:21, 68:9, 79:5,
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american annual 102:11 anyone
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12:13, 16:22, anomaly 8:21, 46:1, 61:14, 62:10,
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4:6 128:15, 128:17, 102:18, 103:5, apply
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27:4 131:2, 131:9, 126:2, 127:6, 56:21, 57:10,
analytic 138:6, 143:6, 127:21, 141:3, 80:15, 118:15,
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andrew 153:18 147:2, 150:17, applying
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angus answering 110:18, 132:21, appointed
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appointing argue 108:8, 112:13, assurance
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appointment arguments 134:14, 143:9, assure
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appreciate armed 150:2 assured
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109:13, 109:21, 145:13, 145:17 47:6, 62:8, 151:10
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apprehension article 79:1, 79:2, 9:16, 11:21,
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appropriate ashcroft 89:3, 111:7, 12:18, 48:11,
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132:5, 132:11, 102:16, 103:14, 77:16 31:3, 74:19,
132:19, 137:14, 112:4, 114:21, assistance 83:15, 83:18,
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8:10, 52:10, asked 21:10, 39:15, 129:17, 131:16,
57:22, 149:20, 7:16, 7:20, 82:7, 94:17, 132:7, 136:20,
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authority 82:6, 82:14, 57:7, 66:22, 49:8, 49:17,
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127:4, 127:9, 2:6, 5:2, 7:22, became 92:12, 93:9,
127:19, 128:1, 40:22, 48:2, 16:20 99:5, 100:13,
129:16, 129:21, 48:4, 56:19, because 100:19, 101:13,
131:16, 132:13, 57:12, 58:19, 8:4, 14:21, 102:7, 103:13,
151:12 69:1, 69:12, 22:13, 29:2, 111:2, 112:2,
authorization 69:22, 86:21, 33:1, 33:20, 113:19, 122:14,
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authorizations 108:17, 109:13, 51:8, 53:22, 130:12, 137:15,
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authorize 141:5, 150:3, 55:18, 61:1, 139:8, 139:9,
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authorized backbone 78:19, 89:20, 145:17, 145:21,
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authorizes 119:12, 122:21, 12:18, 13:8,
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avenues 125:12, 129:16,
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behind big 69:6, 69:21, broader
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being bill 94:22, 95:2, 140:15
8:22, 10:14, 120:3, 120:9, 99:4, 100:5, broadly
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18:21, 19:1, billion 124:12, 149:4 broken
60:3, 61:4, 53:10 boy 22:12
77:20, 79:5, bipartisan 147:19 brought
87:17, 102:1, 19:6, 151:2 branch 44:7, 137:18,
146:14, 153:21 bit 64:7 137:19
belief 135:17, 135:19, branches build
44:22, 54:1, 147:12 14:10, 20:14 90:10, 113:20
99:9 blaming branchs bureau
believe 146:14 3:13 2:12
18:15, 28:1, blunt brand burr
37:19, 40:6, 84:18, 84:19, 110:2 2:3, 10:5,
44:1, 53:4, 85:14, 86:7, breach 10:19, 30:20,
59:17, 77:20, 86:11, 86:17, 122:1 31:15, 31:22,
80:5, 81:3, 87:12, 87:17, breaching 32:2, 32:14,
84:4, 84:15, 87:20, 88:8, 135:5 34:19, 36:3,
86:3, 91:11, 88:20, 89:3, bridge 37:3, 38:7,
97:5, 97:10, 89:15, 89:22, 147:21 47:13, 52:21,
98:18, 99:8, 90:7, 90:12, brief 60:1, 67:4,
104:6, 125:6, 90:15, 90:17, 101:10, 101:11, 73:16, 78:3,
129:13, 132:13, 90:19 113:6, 153:7 84:18, 90:20,
132:19 blunting briefed 99:13, 101:6,
believes 79:22 104:5, 115:9, 102:14, 109:14,
59:9, 59:17 blushed 115:15, 124:12 112:4, 114:1,
benefits 88:16 briefing 116:19, 124:2,
25:3 board 115:10, 128:9, 130:8, 130:17,
best 13:21 153:9, 153:15, 130:20, 131:1,
21:21, 40:5, body 153:16 133:8, 133:10,
40:8, 65:5, 29:4, 29:11, briefings 143:21, 148:10,
110:19, 123:2, 131:18 44:17, 83:1, 148:22, 151:5,
155:6 bombing 83:5 151:15, 151:20,
better 14:2 briefly 152:2, 152:4,
16:22, 51:8, bootstrapping 15:3, 23:21, 152:9, 152:18
55:12, 58:12, 91:9 25:8, 70:9 business
83:9 bossert bring 110:18
between 119:22 39:12, 41:13, by-pass
38:17, 43:22, both 45:5 35:8
45:8, 48:17, 3:6, 9:17, bringing bypass
48:19, 76:18, 14:12, 19:6, 114:18 36:1
76:22, 80:13, 20:5, 21:15, british bypassed
91:7, 91:13, 25:10, 32:18, 12:4 35:20, 35:21,
94:17, 102:19, 37:5, 44:18, broad 50:4
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C care 79:16, 98:17, 90:20, 90:22,
cables 80:1, 150:14 111:20, 142:2, 99:12, 99:13,
18:6 career 146:14, 146:15, 99:14, 100:10,
calendar 34:2, 39:10, 152:18 101:6, 101:8,
88:17, 88:18 101:13 certificate 102:14, 109:14,
call careful 155:1 109:16, 112:4,
2:4, 30:13, 93:8 certification 113:15, 113:16,
30:15, 36:9, carried 32:22, 53:19, 114:1, 114:11,
36:15, 39:9, 17:17, 18:5, 54:3, 59:14, 116:11, 116:19,
41:18, 41:19, 18:6, 99:18, 106:16 124:2, 128:16,
41:20, 65:4, 147:10 certifications 130:8, 130:15,
65:10 carry 19:14, 24:4, 130:17, 130:20,
called 5:13, 108:10 32:17 131:1, 133:8,
case certify 133:10, 139:14,
24:11, 42:22, 143:21, 148:9,
62:16, 69:10, 33:14, 37:20, 155:3
38:3, 52:5, cetera 148:10, 148:14,
117:14 148:21, 148:22,
came 55:14, 59:9, 56:21, 145:6
78:1, 83:20, cfr 149:19, 150:22,
14:1, 105:9, 151:5, 151:15,
121:19, 121:20 109:6, 122:20, 127:14
123:8, 129:7, cfr- 151:20, 152:2,
campaign 152:4, 152:7,
38:18, 39:16, 139:19, 149:7, 125:18
155:9 chain 152:9, 152:18
77:1, 77:2, challenge
138:19 cases 90:15, 125:16,
3:20, 50:12, 126:16 60:17, 140:22
can't chance
27:14, 27:18, 106:21, 137:15, chair
151:15, 152:20, 30:21, 84:17, 39:1, 42:10,
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casually 130:9, 148:11 change
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91:22, 92:6, 136:2 chairman
catch 2:3, 5:20, 6:1, changed
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116:8, 143:11, categories 10:18, 10:19, 18:1, 31:10,
145:7, 148:3 19:16 30:17, 30:20, 143:13
candidly cause 31:15, 31:22, changes
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cannot 34:8, 71:13 34:19, 36:3, character
35:22, 36:1, caused 37:3, 38:7, 109:21
73:21, 111:5, 28:17, 135:3 38:8, 38:9, characterize
129:3, 141:12 causes 42:7, 45:11, 86:7, 143:4,
capabilities 23:15 46:3, 47:12, 149:5
5:2, 50:11, cell 47:13, 47:15, characterizes
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capability central 59:2, 59:22, charge
3:1, 13:5, 121:19, 135:2 60:1, 67:4, 6:20
35:11 certain 67:6, 73:1, check
capitals 21:12 73:16, 73:18, 105:14, 132:14,
49:12 certainly 78:3, 84:9, 132:20
43:1, 44:8, 84:18, 90:19, checks
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chief classified collaboration 53:14, 55:8,
21:20 12:15, 28:4, 29:15, 29:22 66:2, 70:13,
chose 41:6, 52:2, colleague 75:20, 86:16,
126:14 60:8, 62:8, 47:18 86:18, 87:1,
chosen 73:4, 79:10, colleagues 87:5, 89:11,
28:9, 50:7 80:8, 96:15, 5:8, 9:16, 89:12, 90:2,
cia 96:17, 96:18, 11:2, 12:4, 90:11, 105:20,
7:20, 58:6, 111:9, 112:16, 12:5, 15:9, 108:13, 118:11,
75:7, 126:21 113:16, 114:16, 58:5, 67:8, 118:21, 121:11,
circumstance 122:22, 124:18, 81:2, 83:9, 134:5, 134:11,
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circumstances 137:1, 144:14, collect collections
7:7, 34:10, 146:6, 146:11, 9:11, 24:14, 105:21
55:16, 118:17, 146:21 29:9, 33:16, collects
125:13, 126:6, clear 108:8, 117:7, 9:8
126:11, 129:6, 26:18, 65:16, 117:19, 118:3, collins
132:4, 137:15 74:2, 80:20, 118:6, 134:4, 73:16, 73:17,
cited 83:13, 111:15, 134:18, 148:17 74:5, 74:16,
13:7 113:22 collected 74:19, 75:2,
citizen cleared 3:16, 21:4, 75:6, 75:18,
28:17, 121:13, 47:19, 108:1 26:16, 29:4, 76:10, 76:17,
136:21 clearly 91:6, 91:9, 77:8, 77:22
citizens 90:2, 106:22, 108:5, 136:7 collusion
5:11, 11:8, 107:5, 138:20, collecting 76:22
11:20, 14:7, 147:13 24:11, 35:6, combined
15:6, 50:8, cloak 87:5, 107:18, 29:18
51:9, 117:7, 55:3 109:4, 109:9, come
117:15, 119:16, close 134:21, 136:10 28:1, 47:11,
121:16, 122:3, 29:10, 29:12, collection 56:19, 61:21,
122:5, 123:22, 29:15, 39:10 2:21, 3:5, 65:3, 70:13,
134:2, 134:4, closed 3:17, 4:3, 5:12, 70:20, 98:22,
134:16, 134:20, 10:10, 83:1, 5:19, 11:13, 99:19, 103:10,
136:6, 136:11 91:4, 97:19, 13:9, 15:11, 105:2, 106:13,
civil 97:21, 98:2, 17:8, 17:19, 113:6, 116:6,
9:21, 11:7, 98:7, 98:15, 18:12, 19:21, 119:17, 122:18,
11:20, 13:20, 113:13, 114:5, 23:5, 24:8, 123:12, 134:15,
16:11, 20:17, 122:11, 122:21, 24:12, 24:13, 135:3, 149:2,
27:7, 53:8, 128:9, 144:18 25:3, 25:14, 153:17
58:7, 108:21 closely 29:6, 29:8, comes
civilians 5:8, 29:7 29:15, 29:19, 77:12, 109:6,
9:7 closest 30:8, 30:11, 118:5, 119:3,
clapper 151:13 36:5, 36:6, 136:9, 151:18
4:16, 31:3, closure 36:10, 36:15, comey
72:9 116:2 36:20, 37:1, 7:6, 7:10,
clarify co-conspirators 37:4, 37:9, 7:13, 7:22,
35:4, 36:4, 13:19 48:13, 48:14, 32:20, 38:16,
85:2, 127:8 cogent 49:20, 50:11, 39:4, 43:14,
classification 73:20 51:8, 53:5, 45:17, 69:1,
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78:15, 78:21, 133:5, 149:22, 48:19, 102:18, 23:8, 24:1,
79:3, 79:13, 150:16 137:10, 150:6 24:7, 24:21,
82:2, 82:8, committed communications 25:3, 31:20,
85:7, 85:13, 6:14, 16:8, 3:3, 13:11, 66:4, 104:1,
91:18, 92:21, 22:1, 22:20, 16:4, 17:17, 104:2, 104:13,
94:10, 113:10, 25:16, 46:7, 17:20, 23:11, 106:20
126:22, 127:3, 52:12, 149:19 24:14, 25:12, compliant
127:8, 139:16, committee 26:16, 33:2, 106:4
140:2, 141:7, 1:9, 4:7, 8:9, 53:7, 74:22, complies
141:11, 144:5 10:20, 25:16, 117:16, 119:6, 14:16
comey's 28:3, 42:22, 148:17 comply
142:1 43:4, 43:7, communities 52:11, 77:11,
comfortable 43:20, 44:7, 12:8, 49:14 77:19
105:3 44:10, 46:7, community compromise
coming 46:8, 61:8, 5:12, 6:13, 141:3
2:15, 110:12 61:21, 68:16, 6:18, 7:2, 8:12, conceivably
command 75:8, 79:10, 9:11, 11:1, 121:21
28:14, 125:16, 79:15, 84:21, 11:11, 12:17, concentrated
126:16 93:5, 93:17, 19:17, 19:20, 50:4
comment 93:19, 96:7, 21:22, 22:19, concern
40:3, 40:14, 96:8, 97:15, 25:1, 25:11, 91:3, 106:2,
41:3, 41:21, 97:18, 98:7, 25:18, 30:14, 150:10, 150:14
45:11, 49:2, 99:17, 100:1, 33:14, 48:8, concerned
62:20, 68:9, 110:1, 111:5, 55:5, 60:7, 51:5, 91:7,
77:5, 78:9, 112:21, 116:4, 60:9, 64:8, 104:13, 149:16
78:17, 79:7, 119:21, 124:8, 64:17, 68:19, concerning
84:1, 84:7, 130:11, 138:16, 77:10, 113:5, 29:11, 67:20,
133:21, 140:1, 139:2, 145:20, 115:15, 133:15, 76:22, 82:8,
141:12, 141:20, 149:18, 152:19, 134:9, 138:21, 115:7
142:1, 142:2, 153:3, 153:6 150:2 concerns
143:3, 143:11, committee's community's 24:10, 27:2,
145:10, 145:12 5:4, 5:14, 4:3, 12:21, 39:14, 41:20,
commenting 45:21 16:9 53:7, 54:1,
141:6 committees companies 114:14, 149:11
comments 14:12, 21:9, 23:12 conclude
5:21, 41:22, 139:1 company 25:7
42:4, 53:2, commonly 18:11 concluded
95:19, 96:22, 2:18, 32:16 compel 131:18
112:19, 125:9, communicants 18:11 conclusion
133:13 26:19 completed 75:11, 99:4,
commit communicate 104:4 121:20, 121:21,
97:22, 149:11, 121:13 completely 135:3
150:15 communicating 137:11 condition
commitment 16:5, 18:9, compliance 120:4, 120:9
26:1, 34:6, 54:19 15:5, 20:15, conduct
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27:4, 61:9, 93:5, 93:6, 142:12 149:10, 150:9
132:9, 132:13 93:16, 132:19, contacting conversations
conducted 135:8, 135:10, 68:18 39:19, 41:2,
22:4 153:17 contemporaneous 41:6, 43:22,
conducting congressional 149:9 60:6, 67:7,
24:7 31:4, 66:8, contemporaries 67:9, 68:10,
conducts 113:7, 153:12 152:13 75:4, 78:6,
23:4 congressmen content 78:10, 78:17,
conferral 82:21 53:5, 67:8, 78:21, 79:2,
127:11 consequence 149:7, 150:5, 80:12, 81:1,
confidence 33:18 151:3 92:1, 92:6,
110:21 consider contentious 96:15, 96:17,
confident 8:20 95:22, 96:2 99:15, 100:18,
102:16, 103:3, considerably continuation 124:6, 124:9,
133:1 18:2 49:3 124:17, 140:2,
confidential consideration continue 140:4, 140:5,
43:21, 44:14, 24:3 9:6, 15:5, 141:15, 142:2,
46:11, 62:2 considerations 18:8, 50:10, 142:6, 146:3,
confidentiality 6:16 75:20, 76:2, 149:5, 151:3
55:4 considered 76:6, 76:8, convey
confined 114:20 104:19, 120:16, 87:9
72:17 consistency 140:15, 147:8 cooperate
confirm 13:4 continued 43:6
39:1, 42:2 consistent 5:18, 54:4, cooperating
confirmation 16:9, 20:5, 89:11 102:17, 103:1
25:14, 42:19, 73:14 continues cooperation
43:5, 43:19, consolidated 11:14, 15:12, 48:19
45:15, 70:11, 76:14 76:9, 85:9 coordinate
147:16 constant continuing 118:9
confirmed 14:9 29:20, 109:11 coordination
30:8, 43:4, constantly continuous 102:19
96:6 60:21 27:13 copycatting
conflating constitution control 51:1
139:9 6:12, 14:17, 112:6, 127:6, cornyn
confused 20:7, 34:9, 127:21 133:8, 133:10,
77:4 52:11 conversation 133:11, 135:7,
confusion constitutional 36:18, 37:18, 135:13, 135:16,
65:15, 73:12, 4:13, 5:10, 45:8, 47:8, 136:19, 137:20,
74:1, 137:22 22:1, 34:17, 78:15, 79:12, 138:12, 140:13
congress 118:13, 119:15, 79:18, 80:3, correct
4:12, 4:17, 119:17 85:15, 91:18, 24:5, 52:19,
13:2, 15:2, constrained 96:19, 100:3, 76:12, 86:10,
16:12, 16:15, 60:19 100:12, 103:10, 87:15, 100:17,
16:21, 17:7, consult 103:11, 103:20, 105:18, 107:8,
17:14, 19:7, 70:14 108:17, 108:22, 121:17, 125:20,
21:7, 25:10, consuming 128:5, 139:8, 126:7, 126:11,
31:5, 31:17, 33:19, 34:5 141:6, 141:10, 140:4, 144:20,
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corrected 83:6, 84:2, 49:15, 50:8, courts
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107:22 93:18, 94:3, country cover
cost 98:11, 98:21, 33:1, 42:8, 32:22
73:9 99:16, 99:21, 100:19, 110:19 coverage
costs 99:22, 100:3, couple 87:9, 87:10,
25:3 100:8, 102:17, 53:2 87:13, 119:8
cotton 102:20, 103:1, courier creating
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117:10, 117:13, 125:12, 125:20, course credibility
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118:3, 118:12, 127:5, 127:12, 25:13, 37:9, credible
119:2, 119:10, 127:16, 127:20, 40:11, 40:13, 52:2, 150:17
120:8, 120:11, 128:2, 129:4, 55:14, 63:6, credit
120:18, 120:21, 131:10, 131:11, 69:18, 85:10, 151:16
121:1, 121:5, 131:12, 138:2, 86:22, 90:14, crime
121:7, 123:19, 139:6, 150:20, 90:16, 92:21, 90:3, 136:17,
133:16 155:8 134:11, 134:20, 137:2, 137:11
could counsel's 136:22, 137:6 criminal
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32:9, 32:12, 93:9, 93:14, 3:14, 9:8, 52:5, 89:17,
35:4, 39:22, 103:4, 112:22 17:4, 17:19, 89:21, 112:3,
46:5, 49:15, counsels 17:22, 18:10, 138:4, 141:9,
51:12, 51:16, 131:13, 131:20, 18:13, 20:3, 141:10, 141:18,
54:8, 58:2, 142:15 21:10, 21:15, 142:17
58:17, 64:19, count 21:19, 21:20, criteria
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88:7, 100:1, counterintellige- 25:4, 32:16, criterias
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112:16, 113:16, 3:9, 27:10, 59:6, 59:7, criterion
113:21, 114:1, 138:5, 140:17 59:8, 59:16, 57:7
120:6, 121:22, countermeasure 59:17, 59:18, critical
122:1, 122:6, 138:18 66:7, 86:14, 2:16, 3:5,
122:17, 123:3, countermeasures 86:15, 87:2, 27:13, 27:15,
124:21, 124:22, 138:18 103:12, 104:10, 136:12, 150:6
129:1, 129:6, counterparts 104:12, 104:15, crr
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132:9, 132:10, counterprolifera- 105:2, 105:3, crucial
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142:17, 143:18, 3:9, 27:11, 105:12, 105:16, csr
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152:7 1:22, 155:14
counterterrorism 106:14, 106:15, curious
couldn't 27:10, 28:20, 107:21
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32:9, 72:17, current
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counsel courtesy 114:10
counting currently
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153:3 de-conflict define 127:22, 131:12,
cyber 149:20 56:4 131:21, 132:1,
11:17 deal defined 132:6, 132:9,
cycle 24:22, 132:3, 127:14, 128:1 139:7
32:12 138:19 defining department's
D dealing 17:15 45:20
d-ca 37:21 definite depending
52:22, 124:3 dealt 27:18 38:2
d-nm 140:8 definition depends
78:4 death 55:15 60:9
d-or 30:8 definitive deputy
67:5 debate 94:22 2:8, 7:12,
d-ri 3:21, 4:1, degree 74:19, 136:20,
139:13 60:16 125:15, 126:15, 149:16
d-va debated 132:11 derived
5:22 2:16 delayed 152:15
d-wv december 24:3 described
109:15 2:19, 126:17, delegation 92:7, 134:6,
dag's 127:2 127:9 138:1, 145:8
112:18 decide deliberate describes
dais 59:19, 77:15 31:19 146:12, 146:22
108:17 decided delivered description
damaging 17:7, 24:9, 82:13 21:10, 53:18,
69:16, 69:22 27:20, 103:8 demand 149:10
dan decipher 153:20 deserve
2:6, 145:10 116:5 democrat 8:22, 81:17,
data decision 110:6 101:3
17:10, 55:18, demonstrated deserves
21:4, 23:10,
38:3, 38:6, 59:6, 77:11, 9:6 46:1, 101:5
66:20, 88:16, 135:12 demonstrating designed
88:19, 108:3, decision's 18:14 35:8, 35:10
108:4 54:20 denial desire
data's decisions 45:15 101:9, 113:15
109:10 126:6 deny destroyer
date declassify 39:2, 42:3 147:21
13:3 28:9, 121:9 department detail
dated deeply 2:8, 20:21, 11:3, 19:10,
127:2, 127:7 8:13, 152:14, 21:1, 24:22, 23:19, 28:6,
dates 152:15 31:9, 33:13, 138:3, 144:6,
146:13, 147:1 default 37:13, 51:19, 144:16, 145:8,
day 101:14, 101:17 51:22, 52:17, 146:12
defend 54:17, 55:21, detailed
3:17, 5:10,
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day-to-day defer 94:3, 101:12, 145:15, 145:16
90:5 101:14, 101:15, details
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days deference 102:13, 104:10, 23:17, 70:18,
93:18, 149:14, 105:1, 106:13, 78:5
12:1, 100:20,
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determination 112:16, 114:17 91:4, 91:14, documents
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determine 25:19, 61:1, 96:16, 101:16, 102:19
26:18, 26:21, 111:2, 122:19 124:6, 124:16, doing
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84:3, 114:9, 22:18 discussed 49:6, 49:7,
122:3, 122:4, diminished 25:21, 44:21, 57:19, 58:10,
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improper 134:10 63:20, 64:9, 3:4, 15:22,
8:5 independence 64:19, 65:6, 17:6, 19:2,
inability 8:10, 60:12, 75:12, 76:16 84:7, 118:19
111:3 61:2, 125:16, info insight
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35:13, 102:20 intensive internal 41:7, 43:8,
insights 18:19, 18:20 55:2, 58:18, 43:13, 45:19,
32:10, 35:19, intent 104:22, 118:10, 47:1, 61:14,
75:21, 76:3, 16:3, 74:13, 136:9 61:18, 62:10,
120:17, 151:19 107:4, 107:6 internally 63:21, 64:9,
inspectors intention 55:3, 55:7, 65:6, 67:14,
20:18 85:5 87:7 67:21, 68:11,
inspiration intentional international 68:20, 71:21,
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instance 22:14, 31:19, internationally 84:4, 84:22,
112:7 51:15 108:18, 109:12 85:8, 85:11,
instances intentionally internet 85:21, 86:2,
16:13, 16:17, 16:18, 51:17, 23:11, 53:6, 86:5, 86:9,
31:19, 37:5, 117:8, 117:10, 53:10 87:3, 90:10,
152:19 134:2, 134:3, intervene 92:17, 96:20,
institutions 134:15 7:21, 39:4, 99:18, 99:20,
8:7 intentions 40:14, 43:13, 100:6, 100:9,
instruct 3:8 46:21, 47:5, 101:16, 102:4,
101:18 interact 68:22, 96:20, 102:22, 112:3,
instructed 108:7 144:5, 150:1 112:6, 112:14,
28:5 interacted intervened 114:10, 116:14,
instructions 105:1 102:3 125:14, 126:19,
50:22 interacting intervenes 132:10, 132:14,
insure 46:18 150:8, 150:9 132:16, 133:1,
5:14, 9:19 interaction interviews 133:5, 134:12,
integral 39:19, 152:13 83:14 138:7, 138:14,
interactions introduced 139:5, 140:8,
3:7 141:4, 141:9,
integrity 21:17, 67:13, 119:19
intrusions 141:10, 141:19,
5:18, 129:9, 77:5, 94:17 142:5, 142:17,
129:10, 129:14, intercepted 27:21 144:11, 150:9,
129:15, 132:15, 17:21, 50:1 investigate 150:13, 150:18
133:4, 145:12, interest 52:5, 85:10, investigations
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intel 62:22, 125:13, investigated 81:14, 81:19,
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intelligence's interested 150:19 138:1, 147:8,
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ated interesting 113:3, 138:11, 42:22, 44:7,
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intelligent 144:1, 146:15 investigation 97:18, 113:7,
21:13 interests 2:13, 5:4, 7:3, 126:5
intend 26:22, 34:10 7:9, 7:11, 7:19, invocation
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intense 46:21 38:22, 39:5, 74:13, 94:16
27:4 interference 39:13, 39:14, invoking
intensity 6:7 40:15, 40:22,
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involve 98:5, 131:5, judges killing
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involved item judicial kind
75:12, 81:15, 16:7, 92:12 3:12, 21:21, 49:8, 145:3
89:17, 112:2, items 21:22 kinds
112:20, 132:15 19:12 judiciary 123:14
involvement itself 14:12, 21:8, king
75:9, 144:11, 8:10, 24:17, 139:2 90:20, 90:21,
147:3 36:7, 84:16, jump 92:3, 92:10,
involves 107:7, 109:8 32:14 92:18, 93:1,
98:3 J june 93:3, 93:11,
involving jack 1:10 93:14, 93:21,
23:8, 31:19, 139:13 jurisdiction 94:5, 94:19,
53:6, 90:3, james 139:3 95:2, 95:8,
94:8, 94:9, 47:14, 102:15 justice 95:12, 95:15,
96:19 janet 2:8, 20:21, 96:1, 96:4,
iran 132:2 21:2, 21:20, 96:12, 96:18,
27:12 january 25:1, 33:6, 97:1, 97:7,
iraq 75:6, 76:8, 33:13, 37:13, 97:9, 97:20,
28:15 76:12, 115:16, 45:20, 51:19, 98:6, 98:14,
isis 124:7 51:22, 66:11, 99:3, 101:3,
28:16, 50:6, jarring 93:12, 101:12, 143:2
50:22, 118:4, 6:21 101:14, 101:15, knew
119:3 jeopardize 102:13, 104:10, 63:3, 123:9
islamic 105:1, 106:13, know
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issue justice's 8:8, 13:17,
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24:2, 24:5, justification 35:1, 35:14,
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john kamala 72:4, 78:11,
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issues keeping
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131:3 11:11 131:10, 132:1,
50:21, 79:5, key
86:1, 92:15, judge 137:13, 138:8,
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145:2, 145:4, 116:18 29:7, 70:20 58:20, 67:16,
147:4, 147:7, latter least 95:17, 104:1,
147:8, 151:5 88:15 6:8, 7:17, 112:12, 123:8
knowing laughter 47:8, 47:9, letter
92:21, 117:15 120:14, 147:5 85:5, 102:5, 31:4, 31:11,
knowledge law 133:12, 138:13, 31:13, 83:19,
29:11, 57:21, 9:10, 16:10, 142:15, 149:9 127:2, 127:7,
65:9, 116:1, 17:1, 35:8, leave 127:8, 127:18
147:11, 148:19 35:9, 36:7, 59:18, 84:2 level
known 37:6, 37:15, led 32:7, 32:13,
2:18, 2:21, 52:5, 92:11, 104:6 106:6, 120:22,
21:13, 32:16, 106:4, 107:4, lee 149:9
55:12, 125:19 134:7, 137:17, 67:5 liberties
knows 148:20, 150:8 left 9:21, 11:7,
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korea 69:11 legal 16:11, 20:17,
27:12 lawful 15:15, 15:16, 27:7, 53:8,
L 4:14, 4:15, 18:21, 19:10, 58:7, 72:21,
lack 32:18, 121:12 35:10, 35:21, 108:21
50:12 laws 93:21, 94:6, liberty
laid 14:17, 32:21, 97:11, 97:14, 69:20, 71:14
58:9, 102:2 36:1, 52:11 97:16, 98:11, light
lane lawyers 117:5 83:17
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93:15 lay 91:10, 129:22 62:19, 63:16,
lanes 43:9, 47:3 legislation 68:13, 98:16
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lankford 3:11 51:6, 119:20, 141:9, 141:17
99:14, 102:14, lead 120:2, 139:5 likewise
102:15, 103:7, 37:18, 126:20 legislative 111:20
103:18, 104:3, leaders 3:13, 12:21 limit
105:7, 105:12, 6:13, 7:2, legislature 131:7, 131:8
105:15, 105:19, 7:17, 150:2, 131:22 limitations
106:17, 107:5, 151:13 legitimate 15:15, 15:17
107:10, 107:13, leadership 58:4, 58:14, limited
107:17, 108:6 3:8, 31:4, 137:6, 137:13 119:13, 127:14,
large 113:6, 113:7 length 128:2, 142:9
17:14, 50:5 leading 91:15 line
last 28:19 lengthy 20:15
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lastly 137:10, 137:11 lester links
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26:1, 26:13, 48:13, 58:19, 135:10
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listed 116:8, 150:15 13:14, 20:4, matter
73:11 lose 22:13, 37:13, 6:19, 25:17,
listened 106:1, 151:12 40:2, 52:9, 38:11, 60:13,
55:11 lot 52:13, 57:1, 81:8, 81:11,
listening 5:2, 34:21, 59:13, 65:16, 81:12, 84:2,
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literally 69:18, 74:1, 109:4, 110:20, 110:6, 117:3,
152:16 80:21, 113:19, 112:6, 113:18, 124:13, 124:15,
little 113:20, 113:21, 119:11, 123:7, 126:4, 127:2,
67:10, 135:17, 114:14, 128:22, 136:1 127:12, 137:11
135:19 131:4, 152:19 makes matters
live loud 6:17 44:16, 44:20,
145:4 151:14 making 44:21, 46:12,
lives low 149:19 48:18, 79:4,
12:13, 73:9, 22:6 managing 93:13, 113:4,
152:17 loyalty 112:3 113:8
located 78:8 manchester maybe
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15:19, 15:22, ma'am manchin mccabe
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33:5, 73:21 made 111:22, 112:12, 32:1, 33:22,
location 24:16, 26:2, 113:14, 114:11, 52:7, 64:10,
29:17, 30:5, 26:3, 28:19, 115:3, 115:5, 64:14, 64:21,
30:7 39:9, 41:4, 115:21, 116:17, 65:2, 68:9,
london 41:18, 42:1, 124:5 75:2, 75:3,
9:4 42:5, 54:17, mandates 78:5, 78:9,
lone 54:20, 55:18, 51:7 78:16, 78:19,
50:21 57:2, 59:6, manhattan's 79:4, 79:13,
long 65:11, 83:13, 13:18 83:5, 84:5,
12:22, 103:9, 88:14, 95:20, many 84:19, 85:2,
128:18, 131:6, 100:4, 111:14, 3:9, 3:20, 85:22, 86:10,
145:14, 145:18 122:14, 131:22, 8:22, 12:14, 86:16, 86:20,
long-running 134:11, 135:11, 14:4, 50:11, 87:15, 87:18,
140:21 143:2 51:4, 81:2, 90:6, 90:7,
longer main 82:22, 138:8 90:8, 90:14,
10:7, 42:9, march 90:16, 90:18,
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118:5, 119:5 maintain 30:3, 38:15,
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79:16, 91:10, 140:14 mark
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85:18, 85:19 majority 112:18, 118:22,
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28:22, 37:11, make 121:5, 121:6,
55:15, 64:7, 8:21, 9:17, material
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133:2, 136:15, members mike monitoring
136:19, 137:21, 10:6, 10:12, 2:11, 26:5, 14:1, 36:12,
138:9, 139:12, 10:19, 21:19, 26:7 36:20
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139:22, 140:6, 64:8, 77:1, 119:15 1:22, 155:3,
140:10, 141:14, 99:17, 113:5, million 155:14
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148:7, 150:16, memo mind 32:21, 72:1
150:20 41:19, 42:3, 12:1, 123:10, more
mccabe's 45:6, 68:2, 135:1 18:18, 23:19,
129:9 68:8, 82:1 mine 29:16, 48:12,
mccain memorandum 119:8 50:4, 59:3,
143:21, 143:22, 82:8 minimalization 89:6, 89:13,
145:1, 145:15, memory 135:18, 136:8 89:14, 94:2,
146:9, 146:20, 76:3, 88:4, minimization 97:17, 123:8,
147:12, 147:22, 88:5, 104:5, 3:14, 19:22, 135:17, 144:7,
148:8, 148:10 104:9 21:5, 32:18, 144:19, 147:2,
mean memos 56:12 149:3, 151:6
26:9, 26:10, 67:11 minimize moreover
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116:2, 145:4, mentally minute 34:1, 38:14,
146:18, 148:8 120:7 86:21 44:17, 46:17,
meaningful mentioned minutes 60:18, 69:12,
26:14 15:10, 31:1, 10:13, 30:22 69:21, 74:5,
means 78:20, 87:21, misheard 113:12, 142:10
34:22 116:12 88:8 morning's
meant mentioning miss 144:3, 144:15,
36:5 13:8 108:18 145:9, 146:11
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measures message missions most
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125:6, 138:19 145:5, 147:1 22:11, 22:13, 23:2, 24:9,
mechanism methodology 22:14 44:14, 44:18,
153:7, 153:15 26:15 misunderstood 80:13, 83:9,
media methods 127:13 108:6, 117:2,
48:16, 50:22, 73:8, 73:15 misuse 137:4, 146:4,
60:21, 61:4, metric 58:13 151:15
65:18, 109:7 69:10, 71:3 misusing mostly
meet might 51:18 38:12
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meeting 14:3, 39:15, 108:14 84:11
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melbourne 121:10, 123:7, 6:4, 141:1 110:16
9:4 123:15, 136:6, monitor move
member 138:18, 148:8 119:5 45:21, 83:10
42:9, 51:19
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moved names 73:13, 98:21, nominate
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movements 135:20 104:16, 106:7, nomination
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mueller nation's 3:19, 5:12, 9:11, 72:10
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101:1, 102:8, 2:5, 2:10, negative nonintelligence--
112:5, 112:9, 3:22, 19:15, 85:7 related
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126:10, 127:18, 27:1, 28:10, 22:20 normal
127:19, 127:22, 31:2, 32:5, neither 108:17, 125:16,
129:3, 133:2, 33:8, 40:4, 24:15, 155:8 126:16
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mueller's 69:15, 70:15, networks note
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129:14, 129:15, 117:1, 118:18, never 22:11, 140:11
140:20 144:10 22:9, 40:5, noted
multiple nationality 46:20, 46:21, 67:7
3:11, 138:22 16:1 47:21, 61:12, notes
must nations 61:15, 61:16, 67:11, 67:15,
3:14, 4:12, 12:5, 27:11, 63:5, 65:7, 67:19, 68:8,
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57:7, 57:21, nature 99:5 nothing
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153:14 nearly 51:6, 110:2, 97:13, 143:13
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named 60:4, 61:7, 100:20 24:20, 25:11,
99:16 61:8, 72:20, nobody 25:21, 26:1,
101:17, 102:1
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26:19, 27:3, obstructs okay 45:19, 83:22,
28:21, 29:4, 150:13 54:10, 62:21, 90:4, 107:6,
29:7, 29:8, obtain 64:12, 68:5, 114:12, 114:17,
29:11, 29:16, 17:4, 33:15, 68:12, 84:6, 118:17, 135:11,
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58:5, 65:22, obtained 125:2 open
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87:10, 103:8, obvious 108:7 62:3, 69:5,
109:3, 122:12, 48:7 once 76:4, 80:6,
123:13, 134:7, obviously 22:9, 43:11, 87:3, 96:16,
136:9, 151:19 7:4, 44:16, 45:16, 69:3, 111:6, 111:11,
nsa's 48:10, 48:16, 80:4, 103:20 146:7, 146:8,
24:13, 28:20, 77:13, 79:9, one 153:6
75:14 80:8, 125:5, 2:15, 2:21, opened
number 144:8, 146:22, 5:5, 14:4, 22:7, 99:8
21:12, 25:12, 149:10 24:7, 28:8, opening
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36:11, 37:10, 80:3 33:19, 36:11, operation
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69:10, 70:13, 11:22, 53:14, 56:6, 56:7, operational
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88:1, 88:9, october 57:11, 57:14, operator
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106:21, 121:9, 104:12 65:12, 66:6, opinion
122:6, 122:7, odni 67:12, 69:2, 20:10, 106:9
123:4, 123:5, 22:5, 23:14, 70:6, 74:15, opportunity
123:14, 123:18, 24:2, 31:9, 88:3 88:12, 110:15, 5:3, 7:12,
132:15, 132:16, offer 119:18, 120:11, 11:3, 78:12,
134:16, 152:14 28:18 121:19, 123:4, 114:5, 114:8,
number's office 132:15, 133:12, 144:22, 145:2
88:5 20:21, 21:1, 133:15, 133:19, opposite
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4:19, 66:13, 102:19 40:14, 41:7, 33:17, 54:22,
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obligation 57:3, 116:14, 61:14, 61:17, 82:11, 87:2,
5:10, 5:14, 126:2, 144:4 62:10, 81:14, 121:12, 125:17,
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obligations 6:22 141:18, 147:7 orders
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organization 69:17, 70:12, oversight 48:15, 50:2,
37:15, 37:16, 70:17, 71:16, 3:11, 4:9, 60:7, 75:22,
89:21 99:18, 100:19, 9:20, 13:1, 93:8, 141:2
organizations 103:11, 108:10, 13:21, 14:10, parties
108:9 109:6, 110:4, 15:4, 20:13, 153:8, 155:9
organized 113:2, 122:8, 20:15, 20:19, partnering
102:21 123:11, 123:12, 22:3, 23:6, 88:14
original 123:15, 130:18, 30:12, 61:2, partners
19:9 146:21, 147:10, 61:8, 66:9, 28:21, 29:16,
originally 149:2, 149:22, 79:10, 93:5, 29:18, 151:9
17:7 151:14 93:16, 138:17, parts
originated outcome 139:3, 153:12, 49:4, 70:20
131:9 155:10 153:19 party
orwellian outline overview 6:20, 149:8
145:3 56:8, 146:13 15:1 pass
other outset P 4:18, 31:5
3:10, 11:18, 15:8, 15:11 package passed
12:2, 12:5, outside 20:4 13:14, 17:3,
15:14, 29:20, 3:2, 9:12, pages 17:18, 120:12
30:7, 36:1, 17:9, 33:5, 1:21 passionate
38:1, 41:17, 84:7, 86:13, painfully 109:1, 109:3
42:7, 44:21, 87:14, 118:1, 4:2 past
45:5, 46:12, 118:18, 132:6, pakistan 14:18, 63:1
50:6, 55:6, 132:8 13:11 pat
64:7, 64:16, oval panel 128:21, 129:1,
70:6, 71:4, 44:17 6:5, 8:16, 132:7
71:15, 105:17, over 63:18, 117:3 patently
118:20, 122:17, 8:8, 14:18, pardon 48:7
137:8, 147:19 18:3, 28:21, 82:18, 82:20 patience
others 29:14, 51:15, paris 11:9, 30:17
33:3, 75:22, 93:15, 98:4, 9:4 patrick
122:13, 135:20, 112:6, 120:13, part 127:1
144:10 122:1, 127:1 pattern
overlap 6:8, 17:14,
otherwise 54:3, 56:10, 45:15, 45:17
67:12, 125:19, 140:21 56:12, 59:13, pbs
155:10 overreacted 70:19, 75:10, 1:7
ought 4:11 80:14, 81:20, peers
10:2, 62:2, override 88:15, 115:16, 109:20
84:9 126:4 127:14, 141:8, people
ourselves overruled 141:9, 141:18 5:3, 8:21,
37:10, 37:17, 132:17 participating 17:11, 18:3,
48:20, 58:20 overseas 20:22 25:22, 50:14,
out 14:1, 14:7, particular 51:14, 51:16,
5:13, 12:6, 17:16, 17:19, 21:17, 33:16, 52:9, 52:14,
14:4, 38:19, 18:4, 108:10 59:9, 65:18, 52:18, 55:1,
40:21, 47:11, oversee 78:7 58:12, 60:19,
50:4, 53:10, 4:8 particularly 61:7, 64:16,
58:9, 65:20, overseeing 22:3, 39:13, 71:10, 72:21,
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81:17, 110:21, 110:3, 112:9, place 83:8, 99:19,
114:3, 114:5, 125:15, 126:14, 9:22, 12:3, 100:6, 100:12,
118:16, 122:1, 128:22, 134:10, 36:21, 37:4, 101:4, 102:16,
122:15, 123:8, 135:6, 137:7 45:7, 57:18, 112:9, 112:19,
123:20, 132:15, person's 66:2, 87:4, 113:2, 130:18,
133:7, 136:4, 23:9, 26:15 104:7, 104:15, 137:4
137:5, 138:13, personal 106:5, 115:12, points
139:8, 145:7 29:12, 112:15 116:12, 122:17, 16:19, 143:2
percent personally 125:14, 134:8, policies
22:7, 31:14, 7:20 136:1 136:9
36:11, 37:2, personnel plame's policy
131:20 68:18, 103:5 126:20 31:6
perhaps persons plan political
6:22, 10:21, 9:12, 15:19, 98:10 6:16, 6:20,
91:4, 133:20, 15:21, 19:2, planning 8:13, 46:22,
136:14, 136:20 19:21, 20:1, 108:10 55:13, 110:7,
period 20:3, 22:2, plans 136:17
29:14, 40:9, 25:12, 26:19, 3:8, 13:18, politically
104:16 26:22, 27:5, 14:1 55:13, 110:16
permanent 35:1, 35:11, play politics
12:19, 30:15, 36:2, 36:9, 60:14, 83:18 60:13
119:19 56:11, 70:14, pleadings pompeo
permission 72:10, 72:13, 21:10 7:21
59:3 87:22, 90:13, please portion
permit 91:11, 107:3, 36:4, 40:1, 23:4, 24:12
126:3 107:11, 107:19, 51:13, 54:11, pose
permits 119:14, 121:10, 124:22 6:9, 8:16
59:16 134:3, 135:20 pleased posed
permitted perspective 10:20 128:19, 140:17
29:8 27:1, 27:7, pledge position
person 101:12 69:22, 122:8, 31:10, 42:14,
13:13, 16:3, persuasion 123:2 48:9, 61:1,
16:4, 16:5, 110:7 pledged 68:14, 69:17,
21:13, 35:14, phone 70:10 78:20, 85:1,
35:18, 35:19, 53:6, 118:6, plenary 93:3, 93:7,
36:14, 36:19, 137:8 127:10, 128:1 98:22, 101:15,
37:8, 38:6, phrase plenty 120:5, 120:16,
53:13, 54:19, 87:22 85:16 127:13, 144:13,
54:20, 54:21, pick plot 147:7, 153:17
56:5, 56:13, 137:21 9:7, 14:2 positions
56:15, 56:16, piece plots 8:17, 56:6,
56:21, 57:18, 10:22, 46:15, 9:9, 14:6 56:7, 133:3,
73:21, 73:22, 47:7, 54:9, plotting 153:2
86:13, 87:1, 54:12, 54:14, 50:20 possibility
87:4, 87:6, 135:2, 138:9, plus 142:5
87:12, 87:13, 138:10 40:3, 63:6 possible
87:18, 89:17, pitting point 13:3, 24:6,
90:3, 90:9, 3:22 28:14, 47:10, 28:1, 121:22
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post 43:11, 43:22, pretty 79:9, 95:5,
46:17, 68:21, 44:15, 44:18, 144:11, 145:15, 95:17, 98:20,
144:3, 144:15, 45:8, 45:16, 145:16, 149:13 99:6
145:9, 145:13, 45:18, 46:19, prevent privileges
145:19, 146:2, 47:4, 47:22, 23:16, 35:5 94:16
146:7, 146:12, 60:4, 61:5, previous privy
146:18, 147:4, 61:13, 61:17, 44:12, 62:20, 152:19
147:15 67:10, 67:13, 63:5, 63:13, probable
potential 68:17, 68:22, 96:21, 108:5, 18:15, 33:18,
9:9, 23:16, 76:11, 76:18, 125:8, 143:15 34:8
27:5, 37:11, 76:20, 77:1, previously probably
132:22, 138:4, 77:5, 77:12, 77:7, 97:5, 151:8
138:18, 140:16 77:14, 77:17, 124:12, 124:13 probe
potentially 78:6, 78:8, prides 144:5
64:9, 64:19, 78:11, 78:22, 8:9 problem
92:15, 106:13, 79:21, 80:13, primarily 23:15, 23:17,
135:9, 136:17, 81:2, 83:11, 2:22, 29:1, 24:7, 27:22,
137:2 83:15, 94:9, 54:16, 138:3 103:12, 103:15,
power 94:18, 95:4, primary 105:13
18:17 101:20, 102:2, 82:2, 82:3, procedure
practices 114:21, 115:6, 82:16, 151:19 37:4
134:8 115:19, 120:1, principled procedures
pre-existing 124:7, 124:12, 128:22 3:15, 19:19,
140:21 129:2, 141:11, printed 20:1, 21:3,
precedence 141:17, 142:7, 46:16, 145:19 21:5, 32:18,
93:15 142:16, 143:4, prior 51:6, 52:12,
precedent 143:10, 144:8, 40:12, 40:16, 56:12, 58:9,
128:13 146:4, 149:5, 99:17, 113:10, 58:10, 116:12,
preclude 149:22, 150:8 114:7, 115:16 121:22, 134:7,
35:8 president's priority 135:18, 136:1,
predominantly 39:15, 150:7 12:22 136:8
17:17 presidential privacy proceedings
prepared 75:9, 115:8 3:22, 9:21, 155:5, 155:6
41:20, 61:15, press 11:7, 11:19, process
62:3, 102:21 38:19, 41:9, 13:20, 16:10, 18:19, 18:21,
present 43:9, 43:10, 20:17, 22:2, 21:16, 23:6,
91:13, 91:14 47:4, 65:12, 22:20, 27:6, 25:5, 35:20,
presenting 82:10 27:20, 34:10, 53:19, 54:4,
15:10 pressure 51:5, 51:13, 56:10, 58:22,
preserved 46:21, 47:6, 53:8, 54:1, 59:14, 76:16,
133:15 149:6 58:7, 108:22, 77:15, 91:5,
president pressured 123:22, 135:5, 91:14, 97:18,
6:22, 7:8, 40:10, 46:20, 136:6, 136:13 104:22, 105:16,
7:16, 7:19, 47:21, 61:13, private 107:20, 135:22,
8:11, 38:19, 63:10, 80:2, 142:15, 146:3 136:16, 140:12
39:2, 39:12, 99:5, 143:5 privilege processes
40:2, 40:13, presume 74:11, 74:14, 37:7, 76:2
40:20, 41:2, 140:3 75:1, 75:5, produce
11:15, 15:12,
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71:3 prosecutor provider 134:10
produced 62:16, 142:12, 151:19 purpose
11:14, 15:11, 149:14, 149:15, provides 12:16, 38:2,
29:16, 32:12, 149:17 3:1, 3:18, 50:9, 87:5,
33:21 prosecutorial 11:19, 125:18, 88:1, 136:17,
products 126:5 126:9, 134:18 137:13
102:20 prosecutors providing purposes
professionals 34:2 85:5, 127:19 8:13, 15:20,
8:6, 13:4 protect provision 28:9, 55:8
program 3:19, 9:15, 133:17 pursue
6:2, 11:8, 9:21, 11:6, provisions 86:2, 86:5,
20:5, 20:12, 11:16, 15:13, 118:20, 153:14 86:12, 87:10,
20:19, 21:8, 33:8, 51:9, public 87:13, 119:8
22:4, 22:10, 56:11, 107:10, 4:4, 11:4, purview
24:19, 30:12, 119:15, 133:4, 11:5, 14:19, 92:8, 92:16
53:3, 53:4, 152:11 14:22, 16:22, pushback
53:6, 53:21 protected 20:10, 25:9, 51:13
program's 15:7, 17:11, 28:4, 36:5, put
54:6 18:22, 19:3, 42:16, 43:21, 38:4, 66:1,
prohibited 22:21, 57:22, 44:2, 44:12, 73:9, 104:7,
35:2, 72:12 58:12, 60:7, 45:1, 46:1, 104:15, 106:5,
prohibition 62:2, 129:4 62:14, 70:1, 107:21, 110:21,
16:6, 35:5, protecting 81:1, 82:7, 116:2, 116:12,
92:10 3:6, 12:12, 82:9, 82:10, 122:17, 129:15,
proliferators 20:1, 22:2, 82:12, 82:22, 151:14
11:17 72:20, 73:14, 84:15, 88:16, puts
promise 147:13 101:4, 103:11, 60:22
69:13 protection 109:7, 110:15, putting
promised 16:10, 58:7 116:7, 124:13, 69:13
69:9 protections 124:16, 125:13, puzzled
promptly 9:22, 10:1, 142:15, 145:7 91:16
10:11, 23:14 11:19, 19:8, public's Q
promulgated 90:12 8:7, 45:12 qaeda
56:17 protective publicly 13:10
properly 136:5 2:16, 7:18, quality
54:22, 141:12 proud 20:8, 23:18, 110:9
proposal 22:3, 43:5, 76:20, 101:16, queried
24:20 110:1, 148:4 146:2, 151:18
published 91:6
proposed provide queries
18:16, 25:1, 6:14, 11:6, 88:19, 146:17
pull 23:8, 103:9,
25:5 14:22, 28:8, 107:1
prosecute 43:1, 44:8, 7:22 query
52:6 57:15, 69:9, purge 91:7, 109:9
prosecuted 75:14, 127:18, 38:3, 38:6 querying
137:14 130:11, 145:1, purged
147:9, 149:9 21:4
prosecution 109:10 question
52:6 provided purging
155:7 6:9, 23:20,
prosecutions 108:3, 108:4,
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26:12, 36:3, 99:11, 100:16, raises 77:19, 114:17,
37:17, 43:18, 100:22, 101:3, 27:2, 123:17 119:18, 121:20
49:16, 53:11, 102:1, 108:22, raising reasonable
53:15, 53:21, 111:4, 111:7, 53:22 9:13
54:15, 54:16, 112:13, 112:22, ranking reasons
58:4, 59:4, 113:11, 113:19, 51:18 15:2, 78:19,
62:4, 62:15, 114:6, 114:13, ranks 121:19, 141:22
64:4, 64:5, 117:2, 117:5, 28:13 reassess
64:15, 65:16, 130:13, 133:13, rarely 58:20
70:4, 70:8, 143:20, 149:3 67:18 reassuring
71:4, 71:15, quibble rates 136:3
74:6, 76:15, 128:21 22:6 reauthorization
77:4, 77:9, quickly rating 4:19, 9:2,
79:20, 81:6, 13:15 121:3 9:19, 12:19,
81:18, 83:3, quite ratio 30:15, 31:5,
83:10, 84:10, 6:17 53:11 114:22
84:13, 91:17, quote rationale reauthorize
91:20, 92:13, 13:21, 32:22, 140:1, 141:6 9:18
92:19, 93:4, 42:21, 44:8, rd reauthorized
94:8, 94:20, 71:2, 86:8, 68:16 15:4
95:3, 95:15, 125:12, 126:1, rdr reauthorizing
95:16, 97:19, 127:4, 127:10, 9:14
114:2, 114:21, 1:22, 155:14
127:11, 127:20, re-create recall
122:14, 123:17, 128:1, 139:16 40:9, 85:14,
124:4, 125:5, 32:10
R re-institute 89:1
126:17, 128:17, receive
128:18, 128:20, r-ar 106:14
116:20 reach 21:9
129:14, 130:10, received
131:2, 134:14, r-az 27:17, 77:11,
136:14, 142:20, 143:22 100:6 12:7, 49:20,
142:21, 148:12, r-fl read 57:14, 65:7
151:8 60:2 36:7, 142:9, receives
question's r-id 144:7, 144:16, 23:11
67:10 47:14 147:14 recent
questions r-me reading 6:6, 6:21,
6:9, 8:15, 73:17 56:20, 57:9, 20:10, 23:6,
8:22, 10:13, r-mo 145:5, 147:4 23:7, 50:17
30:19, 30:22, 84:19 ready recently
37:10, 38:10, r-nc 144:19 7:16, 11:21,
39:12, 46:2, 2:3 realize 49:9, 50:2, 69:8
61:10, 62:17, r-ok 5:9, 45:22, recertification
67:20, 68:4, 102:15 80:7, 80:9, 21:16
78:13, 82:22, r-tx 132:21 recipient
95:4, 95:9, 133:11 really 24:16
95:18, 96:5, raise 26:10, 33:6, recipients
97:2, 97:3, 53:7 55:18, 57:4, 56:18
98:1, 98:8, raised 112:4, 113:21, reclusive
98:15, 99:9, 53:12 116:3, 123:17 29:21
reason recognize
32:21, 51:1, 30:21, 33:12,
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52:8, 55:2, 143:1, 143:17 regularly reliability
148:11 refer 14:11, 21:15 104:8, 106:6,
recognized 87:7 regulation 106:12, 106:18
10:12, 10:15 reference 132:2, 132:12, relied
recollection 36:13, 56:13 132:18 75:10
40:5, 40:8 referenced regulations rely
recommend 24:17 125:20, 126:3, 118:20
106:14 referral 127:16, 128:2, remain
recommendations 90:9 129:4, 129:11, 9:22, 57:21
58:12 referred 130:4 remains
reconvene 16:5, 140:14, reiterate 26:13, 57:17
10:9 153:8 30:13, 112:18 remarks
record referring reiterated 28:7
22:4, 22:18, 24:13, 33:9, 76:6 remember
43:15, 66:18, 65:19, 84:14, rejected 43:4, 92:3
67:12, 67:17, 85:3, 92:1, 69:21 remind
73:13, 73:14, 138:9 relate 5:5, 57:16
82:7, 82:9, refers 86:18 reminded
82:10, 82:12, 23:10 related 12:11
82:22, 84:15, reflected 29:7, 44:20, reminds
88:12, 88:17, 17:10 49:4, 67:13, 35:22
89:4, 89:10, reflects 155:8 remove
94:5, 124:14, 74:15 relates 38:4, 126:10
124:16, 151:21, refusal 48:15 removed
155:5 91:16, 91:19, relationship 129:6
recorded 92:19, 94:6, 47:1, 103:3, renewing
155:5 97:2, 97:15 116:14 19:5
recording refusing relative reno
2:2, 154:2, 97:14, 99:10, 46:11, 49:18, 132:2
155:7 143:6 68:11, 98:12, reoccurring
recusal regard 116:13, 122:13, 23:17
83:17, 84:7, 54:15, 102:12, 140:16 repeat
84:8, 84:13, 128:14, 139:18 relatively 16:14, 120:6,
84:14 regarding 34:12, 51:7 152:12
recuse 4:15, 19:10, relay repeatedly
102:7 19:15, 48:17, 42:10 4:13, 66:1
recused 52:1 release repeating
126:18 regardless 73:7, 82:11 61:20, 95:20
redacted 16:1, 50:3 released report
20:8 regards 20:8 13:21, 14:11,
redoubled 109:19, 129:18 releasing 37:12, 37:20,
4:7 regime 80:8 37:22, 56:10,
reed 17:9, 17:10 relevant 56:14, 56:16,
139:12, 139:13, regular 3:15, 21:9, 56:18, 57:4,
139:21, 140:7, 21:2, 21:6, 25:3, 47:7, 57:14, 57:17,
141:5, 141:15, 21:16, 40:13, 55:7, 69:10, 65:18, 76:8,
142:4, 142:11, 48:12, 59:13, 71:3, 95:12, 76:11, 76:21,
142:14, 142:19, 76:3, 122:16 137:9, 147:9 77:7, 77:13,
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88:4, 89:19, 26:19, 33:17, response 35:4, 35:7,
103:19, 116:7, 34:9, 34:11, 46:17, 53:20, 35:12, 35:16,
132:18, 146:7 52:13, 132:18, 56:22, 83:12, 117:14
reported 153:2 85:8, 86:3, review
20:20, 22:17, requirement 124:4, 143:14, 3:16, 58:18,
24:1, 66:6, 33:4, 33:7, 146:1, 150:4, 104:2, 105:16
66:8, 66:10, 37:12, 91:12 150:5 reviewing
68:21, 85:17, requirements responsibilities 34:1
103:19, 105:7, 3:12, 153:19 22:1, 138:16, reviews
145:21, 146:8 requires 139:4, 140:22 20:4
reporting 19:13, 19:18, responsibility reward
3:7, 3:11, 19:22, 125:14, 140:15, 150:21 28:18
21:7, 34:21, 134:7 responsible richard
65:1, 145:13 research 83:7, 119:1 2:3
reports 26:20, 27:5 responsibly right
6:21, 7:15, researched 52:10 26:8, 26:10,
8:3, 21:13, 23:22 responsive 31:15, 55:17,
38:19, 39:1, resilience 26:14 58:10, 65:20,
40:20, 41:9, 12:8 rest 76:3, 87:19,
42:18, 43:9, resource 43:10, 47:3, 90:7, 90:18,
43:11, 47:4, 18:18, 18:20, 102:2, 114:3 94:3, 107:8,
65:12, 102:1 85:22 restoring 114:14, 130:9,
represent resources 19:7 135:13, 144:17
21:21 27:15, 27:16, restricted rights
republican 34:6, 52:13, 113:13 15:6, 51:5,
110:6 85:16, 86:2, restrictions 118:13, 119:15,
republicans 86:4, 86:5, 9:20 119:17, 121:16,
119:21 103:5 result 122:2, 123:22
request respect 4:6, 28:2, rigorous
10:21, 31:13, 8:14, 32:8, 106:7, 123:3 14:9, 20:13,
39:9, 43:7, 43:3, 45:2, resulted 30:12
56:9, 56:22, 45:3, 47:18, 23:2 risch
57:1, 57:2, 48:22, 56:2, results 47:13, 47:14,
57:7, 68:19, 62:7, 67:8, 115:15 48:4, 51:10,
100:4, 103:6 76:1, 110:9, return 52:16, 52:20
requested 110:12, 129:1 9:1, 104:18, rising
57:13, 76:11, respectful 143:1 28:13
76:20 141:2 returned risk
requests respectfully 12:10, 30:6, 66:2
25:9, 25:10, 71:1, 130:16 49:11 risks
64:16, 76:18, respond reveal 48:10
77:12, 89:6, 26:12, 46:5, 112:10 road
102:18 46:15, 55:22, revealed 62:12, 140:20
require 71:17, 73:3, 13:11 robert
17:18, 32:21, 98:16, 124:22 revealing 129:3, 129:9
34:6, 34:7, responded 57:18, 73:7 robust
34:13 43:18, 74:10, reverse 4:9, 9:20,
required 78:16 16:6, 35:2, 29:11, 48:19,
18:1, 18:11,
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103:3, 153:14 137:20, 138:6, 138:1, 138:7, satellite
rod 142:4, 142:8, 138:14, 138:20, 17:18, 17:20,
2:9 148:2, 148:3, 140:16, 140:18, 17:21, 18:5
roger's 150:11, 150:12 140:22, 144:11, satisfied
58:9 routed 147:3 97:9
role 3:4 russians saved
7:13, 20:18, routinely 75:12, 75:22, 152:16
83:17, 138:2 65:22 76:15, 76:22 saw
roll roy S 145:20
5:1 84:19 safe say
ronald rubio 5:11, 5:15, 4:10, 4:15,
67:5 60:1, 60:2, 11:12, 50:15, 7:6, 7:8, 10:6,
rose 62:6, 62:13, 50:18 24:20, 26:2,
107:17 62:21, 63:8, said 26:6, 35:13,
rosenstein 63:11, 63:15, 20:12, 42:21, 47:2, 51:3,
1:8, 2:9, 7:13, 63:17, 64:2, 43:6, 44:6, 56:15, 56:19,
31:9, 31:14, 64:5, 64:12, 57:6, 61:4, 60:19, 61:15,
33:9, 34:19, 64:18, 64:22, 62:17, 65:4, 63:12, 69:3,
51:12, 51:20, 65:3, 65:11, 69:13, 71:2, 77:19, 78:7,
52:19, 52:20, 65:20, 66:13, 72:16, 72:18, 80:5, 80:10,
54:13, 55:10, 66:19, 67:3, 73:13, 79:19, 83:10, 88:6,
55:17, 55:21, 85:4 84:21, 85:18, 89:11, 91:9,
59:2, 59:15, rubric 94:15, 104:18, 99:14, 100:11,
63:22, 65:14, 85:10 105:9, 105:11, 106:9, 106:17,
65:15, 67:18, rule 105:12, 106:7, 108:12, 110:16,
68:3, 68:6, 101:17, 101:19 107:3, 111:12, 112:12, 113:14,
74:20, 74:21, rules 122:15, 127:11, 114:15, 115:14,
81:10, 81:22, 19:19, 66:1, 130:5, 135:4, 115:21, 122:16,
82:5, 82:15, 118:15, 118:22 141:8, 152:16, 143:17, 143:18,
82:18, 82:20, run 155:5 143:19, 145:18,
83:4, 83:21, 91:8, 144:2 same 147:18, 150:7,
84:12, 90:1, running 7:11, 11:18, 152:12
90:4, 99:16, 18:6, 65:20 18:8, 18:20, saying
101:7, 101:8, russia 31:7, 32:7, 42:17, 60:22,
101:21, 102:10, 43:8, 67:14, 40:8, 68:14, 64:22, 73:3,
111:22, 112:1, 68:6, 68:11, 74:18, 95:3, 80:18, 80:21,
118:12, 118:14, 83:13, 144:5 97:1, 106:10, 114:12, 123:11,
121:1, 121:2, russian 141:22, 142:19, 125:3
125:11, 125:21, 5:4, 6:7, 7:9, 148:1, 148:6, says
126:8, 126:12, 7:19, 32:11, 149:21 106:10, 108:19,
127:17, 128:3, 38:18, 38:21, sample 123:13
128:9, 128:15, 40:22, 43:13, 71:11 scale
128:18, 130:1, 67:20, 75:8, sampling 4:22, 120:11
130:3, 130:17, 75:16, 79:22, 69:14 scenario
131:1, 131:3, 83:7, 84:22, sanity 35:12, 36:14,
135:9, 135:14, 85:11, 85:20, 147:17 37:1
136:15, 136:18, 86:8, 115:7, sasc scenarios
136:20, 137:3, 124:7, 125:6, 42:21, 44:7 36:11
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scheduled 29:19, 30:8, self-proclaimed services
10:7, 113:17 30:10, 32:16, 28:15 18:2, 68:16,
school 33:13, 34:22, self-reported 96:7, 123:21
28:16 48:4, 48:15, 20:22 serving
scif 49:4, 52:4, senate 45:4, 110:2
116:18 53:2, 53:14, 1:9, 2:7, session
scope 73:20, 74:2, 14:13, 28:2, 10:10, 23:20,
4:22, 23:15, 114:22, 116:22, 111:5, 122:12, 28:5, 43:21,
79:5, 84:3, 117:6, 118:17, 131:14, 139:1 44:2, 44:12,
84:8, 114:9, 119:5, 119:12, senator's 80:6, 91:4,
140:8, 140:13, 119:19, 121:11, 114:2 97:19, 97:21,
140:20 148:17 senators 98:2, 98:8,
scores security 82:21, 83:1 98:15, 111:11,
27:8 2:10, 3:22, sender 114:5, 122:11,
scream 22:22, 23:3, 24:15 122:21, 144:18,
151:14 32:5, 33:8, seniority 146:8, 153:6
seamless 40:4, 56:3, 10:13 sessions
119:11 60:11, 63:7, sense 83:17
search 69:15, 69:19, 55:13 set
29:1, 91:8 70:16, 71:12, sensitive 2:19, 19:19,
searches 71:14, 103:16, 30:9, 98:20, 37:7, 43:15,
69:12 113:4, 117:1, 101:9, 113:3, 114:2
second 120:1, 120:17, 113:7, 128:3, setting
18:4, 19:18, 136:12 147:14, 153:16 60:8, 102:18,
27:8, 28:14, see sensitivity 111:6, 111:9,
36:14, 37:17, 30:9, 45:14, 57:17, 153:5 112:17
43:19, 84:11 49:7, 58:8, separate settings
secondly 76:6, 143:7, 65:13 113:13
15:14, 15:20, 150:21 separately seven
46:14, 56:8 seek 38:20, 39:2 8:8, 119:21
seconds 9:13, 34:3, september several
51:11, 84:1, 63:20, 86:18 4:20, 31:6 2:20, 37:10,
151:6 seeking series 134:15
section 13:13, 64:18 97:1 shall
2:22, 3:1, 3:5, seeks serious 126:1
5:12, 9:3, 9:8, 86:22, 150:17 27:19, 72:4, shape
9:15, 9:19, seem 144:12 40:21
10:10, 11:4, 80:15, 119:12, seriousness shaping
11:13, 11:18, 149:18, 149:21 52:1 46:22
12:11, 13:7, seems serve share
13:9, 14:2, 45:18, 133:11, 139:2 44:22, 49:18,
15:1, 15:15, 141:7 served 50:10, 50:13,
15:18, 16:14, seen 42:8, 43:3, 62:1, 69:19,
16:18, 16:21, 7:15, 88:22 145:19 78:5, 79:11,
19:11, 20:12, selectively service 79:17, 80:22,
23:9, 28:12, 80:16, 80:18 8:14, 18:10, 81:1, 81:13,
29:2, 29:3, selector 40:9, 45:3, 124:8, 124:9,
29:9, 29:14, 87:7 46:18, 109:18 124:10, 146:3,
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149:7 significant 147:19, 151:11, 100:6, 100:7,
shared 11:15, 19:6, 151:22, 152:6, 101:4, 104:16,
44:15, 81:4, 23:3, 26:20, 152:9 106:1, 111:3,
99:17 27:2, 29:4, sit 111:4, 113:11,
shares 34:6, 66:14, 91:22, 97:17 116:6, 117:4,
52:7 73:10, 120:17, sitting 123:3, 132:4,
shift 137:4 25:16, 92:22, 137:22, 144:6,
122:1 significantly 111:2, 146:10 144:15, 146:12,
shifted 89:6 situation 147:20, 149:9,
27:9 similar 46:13, 54:18, 150:10, 151:13
short 43:18, 76:7 144:19, 146:10 somebody
24:20, 39:6, similarly situations 55:11, 132:6,
68:7, 70:6, 127:18 49:8, 107:2 132:7, 132:8,
128:10 simple slightly 136:21, 137:12
shots 79:20, 80:9 20:8 somebody's
30:4 simply small 55:6
should 19:11, 80:2, 113:13 somehow
9:19, 50:16, 80:10, 80:21, smarter 149:4
54:2, 54:4, 111:8 54:9, 54:13 someone
55:12, 58:10, since snowden 51:17, 52:3,
81:4, 96:19, 4:16, 4:19, 4:6 64:19, 65:4,
97:11, 108:8, 14:8, 16:12, snowden's 65:6, 94:13,
108:12, 127:12, 16:15, 31:10, 4:11 121:12, 123:11,
128:16, 133:16, 31:17, 51:18, social 136:16
153:16 85:13, 112:5, 50:22 someone's
show 113:16, 113:18, soil 135:5
104:20, 106:3 140:8, 143:13 117:20, 119:13, something
showing single 119:18 7:6, 37:21,
34:7, 34:9 76:14 solemnly 47:22, 58:3,
shown sir 96:8 58:11, 58:21,
12:9, 22:5 32:1, 39:22, solution 61:6, 63:12,
shows 41:4, 41:8, 24:6, 24:18, 77:20, 99:7,
50:2, 109:8, 41:10, 42:1, 25:2, 25:5, 104:5, 104:11,
145:3 42:5, 42:13, 104:7, 104:15, 108:18
sic 63:14, 65:2, 105:2, 105:4, sometimes
76:4, 114:18 78:9, 91:21, 106:5, 106:11 56:19, 144:2,
side 92:5, 92:15, solutions 153:8
112:14 92:20, 93:20, 23:16 somewhat
sides 95:21, 96:3, some 140:22
9:17 96:21, 99:2, 4:10, 6:9, somewhere
signal 103:2, 107:12, 7:15, 8:15, 120:7
117:3 107:16, 108:2, 11:3, 38:10, sooner
signature-sxeww 112:17, 118:10, 45:7, 47:4, 110:13, 116:2,
155:12 120:7, 120:20, 47:9, 47:10, 116:18, 123:20
signed 125:1, 129:12, 50:12, 56:18, sorry
105:17 130:2, 139:20, 73:3, 73:6, 64:13, 65:13,
significance 140:6, 140:10, 73:9, 88:1, 84:12, 88:8,
137:10, 138:8 141:14, 141:21, 92:10, 93:21, 92:5
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sort specified 31:6, 44:12, statutorily
71:16, 87:8 126:6, 126:11 63:3, 63:5, 59:8, 129:22
sources spent 63:14, 82:12, statutory
73:15 28:21, 33:22 116:11, 122:15, 32:3
spats spies 125:18, 126:14, step
48:17 17:5 134:22 58:19, 86:21,
speak spotlight states 91:13
25:7, 72:8, 4:4 2:7, 3:3, 3:4, stepping
79:14, 112:8, spring 4:7, 9:12, 93:8
131:5, 138:13, 103:8 12:17, 13:12, steps
148:3 st 14:7, 14:17, 141:3
speaking 2:19 16:1, 17:6, still
60:21, 112:1 stack 17:11, 18:7, 11:22, 27:22,
speaks 34:1 19:3, 25:12, 84:22, 86:6,
81:6, 84:15, staff 33:5, 34:18, 86:9, 95:1,
109:20 27:22, 28:3, 40:2, 41:3, 109:11, 122:5,
special 89:2, 98:4, 43:12, 46:19, 122:18, 139:17,
62:16, 79:6, 122:11, 122:12, 47:22, 50:18, 139:19, 143:11
82:10, 83:6, 123:1 60:5, 60:12, stop
84:2, 85:11, stake 61:5, 73:22, 24:7, 24:10,
92:8, 92:16, 34:11, 69:17 77:13, 77:14, 103:9, 107:21,
93:4, 93:9, stakes 82:15, 82:21, 108:4, 151:10
93:14, 93:18, 8:19 86:13, 87:14, stopped
99:16, 99:21, stand 93:6, 93:15, 103:13, 109:10
100:3, 100:8, 41:3, 41:22, 94:18, 95:5, store
102:17, 102:20, 42:4, 44:11, 101:20, 102:3, 51:17
103:1, 103:4, 62:19, 63:4, 118:2, 118:5, story
112:19, 112:21, 63:13, 77:7, 118:15, 118:18, 145:5
113:11, 125:11, 95:14, 95:19, 118:19, 119:4, straight
125:20, 126:1, 96:21, 125:8, 125:22, 129:3, 4:18, 6:19,
126:22, 127:5, 143:15 139:1, 141:11, 31:5, 43:15,
127:12, 127:16, standard 141:17, 144:9, 120:18
127:20, 128:2, 146:4, 150:1 straightforward
34:17, 80:16 stating
129:4, 131:19, start 94:7
138:2, 139:6, 127:9 strategy
10:11, 39:7, statistical
142:12, 149:14, 48:22, 49:10, 26:11
149:15, 149:17, 74:7, 88:13, 21:12, 69:14, straw
150:20 88:15 71:11
status 39:6
specific started strengthened
24:8, 39:19, 107:20 4:16, 143:8
statute 10:2
70:13, 84:12, state stress
106:21, 115:7, 23:21, 28:15 14:14, 19:9,
19:13, 19:18, 15:8, 16:7
143:6 stated strikes
specifically 19:22, 20:6,
13:21, 44:4, 32:19, 36:7, 91:9, 134:13
35:22, 37:7, 83:11, 91:21, strong
38:3, 40:20, 59:16, 107:6,
125:12 107:9, 119:9, 11:19
143:9 statement strongly
specifics 131:10, 131:17
11:10, 31:2, 31:12
41:2, 115:18
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structure 133:17 32:15, 59:7, 114:4, 116:4,
35:21, 134:17 sunsets 87:1 122:15, 127:1,
subject 53:21 susan 141:3, 145:18,
3:10, 4:9, 9:1, sunsetted 73:17 151:16, 152:8,
14:9, 20:13, 131:17 suspected 153:1
25:8, 25:17, supervision 17:5 taken
30:11, 100:14, 126:2, 127:5, suspend 6:12, 12:3,
117:2, 121:10, 127:21 130:8, 130:20 50:5, 67:19,
125:7, 126:1, support suspicion 68:10, 68:11
142:17, 150:10, 19:7, 31:12, 9:13 takes
150:14 43:5, 53:3, swear 93:15
subjects 75:11, 83:5, 96:8 taking
146:13 91:2, 114:22, swept 45:20, 45:21,
subsequent 115:4, 115:5, 69:11 50:21, 102:22
25:15, 30:7, 119:18, 119:21, swore talk
115:18, 127:7 139:16 97:12 5:4, 10:21,
subsequently supported sympathetic 11:10, 36:13,
12:3 33:18 131:7 39:18, 40:17,
subset supporter sympathies 48:13, 48:21,
88:17, 89:6 9:14 12:6 48:22, 78:21,
substance supporting sympathy 85:22, 108:16,
39:8, 41:19 103:5 147:15 116:22, 137:22,
substantially supports syria 145:8, 151:18
22:6, 22:7, 120:3, 120:9 118:4, 119:3 talked
47:20 supposed system 51:4, 58:5,
subway 48:5, 119:16 22:11, 22:12, 58:15, 70:17,
13:19, 14:2 supreme 107:15, 109:8, 83:14, 134:10,
succeeded 21:20 121:3 135:21, 149:15
14:3 sure systems talking
success 8:21, 9:17, 33:3 37:19, 40:15,
22:18 20:4, 41:15, T 55:12, 64:10,
successes 52:9, 52:13, 95:1, 98:21
table talks
12:15 54:13, 64:14, 93:2, 153:10
successful 65:16, 65:17, 35:18
tackle tangibly
29:1 86:20, 90:8,
97:16, 109:4, 27:22 57:5
successfully tactical
5:13 110:20, 119:10, target
119:11, 136:1, 29:18 3:2, 9:7,
suffering take
48:11 144:6, 144:16, 15:18, 15:20,
147:20, 148:5, 6:8, 11:3, 15:22, 16:2,
suggest 14:15, 33:10,
58:21, 127:13 149:19 18:16, 24:15,
surrounding 50:7, 50:16, 33:16, 35:11,
suggested 54:11, 58:8,
33:3, 112:4 7:7 35:17, 36:2,
surveillance 66:18, 67:11, 36:18, 36:19,
suggesting 67:15, 67:18,
58:6 2:18, 3:14, 36:22, 50:17,
17:2, 17:5, 68:13, 88:12, 72:3, 73:21,
suit 89:4, 89:10,
4:20 17:15, 18:16, 108:15, 109:11,
18:21, 19:2, 90:8, 94:1, 117:10, 117:13,
sunset
53:22, 54:2,
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134:2, 134:3, 91:22, 97:12, 47:18, 47:20, theoreticals
134:15, 134:22 106:18, 110:11, 51:14, 94:13, 39:18, 40:18
targeted 114:12, 123:13, 98:6, 99:7, theory
19:21, 72:19, 147:2 152:22 35:16
117:8 ten th therefore
targeting 14:8, 16:12, 30:3, 76:6, 18:19, 30:13,
16:6, 19:18, 16:15, 51:15, 84:20, 104:6, 141:12
20:2, 21:3, 120:11, 120:13 104:12, 125:12, thing
32:17, 34:22, term 127:2, 139:15 87:8, 98:18,
35:1, 35:3, 108:7 thank 106:10, 114:12,
35:5, 35:6, termed 2:5, 5:22, 6:1, 133:12, 133:19
35:7, 35:12, 35:2 10:3, 10:5, things
35:16, 36:16, terms 10:14, 10:18, 15:8, 49:6,
117:14, 119:14 11:6, 47:8, 30:17, 30:20, 60:15, 60:22,
targets 75:16 34:19, 38:7, 100:7, 109:1,
5:7, 17:8, terribly 38:9, 38:13, 138:15
27:6, 53:10, 9:3 46:3, 47:12, think
71:18, 71:20, terror 47:14, 47:16, 4:10, 4:14,
72:6, 72:9, 152:4 48:1, 48:3, 13:8, 26:3,
72:11, 72:12, terrorism 51:10, 52:20, 33:11, 34:15,
72:22, 73:3, 5:6, 11:16, 53:1, 58:1, 37:21, 42:6,
73:6, 73:7, 15:13 59:1, 59:11, 46:9, 47:9,
73:12 terrorist 59:21, 60:2, 47:19, 48:7,
task 3:8, 9:9, 9:15, 67:3, 67:5, 50:16, 51:8,
77:16 17:22, 18:9, 73:1, 73:17, 55:1, 55:17,
teacher 28:17, 50:7, 73:19, 74:4, 56:13, 58:14,
28:16 108:9, 118:4, 77:22, 84:17, 61:3, 62:1,
team 119:3, 123:21, 90:19, 90:21, 67:21, 69:16,
140:11 151:10 99:12, 101:8, 69:22, 71:13,
technical terrorists 103:7, 109:12, 72:1, 72:16,
25:22, 70:18, 9:6, 17:5, 109:15, 109:17, 72:17, 72:18,
104:7, 104:14, 18:22, 108:10, 116:9, 116:18, 74:1, 76:5,
106:5, 106:11, 108:15 116:20, 124:3, 79:4, 79:13,
114:3 testified 125:10, 131:3, 79:17, 80:12,
technicalities 32:20, 38:16, 135:16, 139:11, 80:18, 81:5,
98:4 61:12, 68:16, 139:13, 139:21, 81:14, 81:16,
technicians 75:10, 76:4, 143:20, 148:9, 81:19, 83:22,
122:12 77:7, 94:12, 148:13, 148:21, 85:3, 85:14,
technology 99:4, 139:15, 149:1, 150:22, 91:21, 94:7,
17:16, 18:1, 150:3 151:4, 152:21, 94:12, 100:5,
18:20 testify 153:21 101:1, 104:11,
tell 46:8, 78:11, thanks 106:6, 106:22,
6:19, 51:12, 97:15 52:22, 59:21, 108:16, 109:19,
51:16, 54:14, testifying 148:10 109:20, 110:3,
55:11, 56:20, 99:7 themselves 111:12, 111:14,
61:21, 66:22, testimony 20:16, 108:14 112:13, 113:21,
72:2, 72:14, 1:8, 5:17, theoretically 116:4, 116:7,
72:21, 73:13, 10:16, 38:13, 129:5, 132:21 116:17, 118:16,
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121:3, 123:15, 21:16, 25:22, today 28:19, 66:21,
134:5, 136:3, 28:13, 49:20, 2:5, 2:15, 67:2, 77:18,
137:3, 137:4, 50:5, 50:19, 6:11, 7:11, 8:3, 89:9, 144:3
137:21, 138:2, 50:22, 70:18, 8:16, 10:12, topic
138:14, 140:10, 77:15, 98:11, 10:15, 10:20, 65:13
143:2, 146:1, 104:9, 104:17, 11:21, 13:6, total
146:6, 147:6, 104:22, 105:16, 15:10, 39:17, 89:12
153:10 107:20, 114:3, 40:18, 42:1, totally
thinking 121:22 42:5, 60:16, 123:5
7:9 throughout 62:4, 67:19, tough
third 49:14 74:10, 74:14, 26:10
15:21, 16:7, throw 75:1, 75:5, toward
57:6, 149:8 49:1 75:10, 79:7, 44:16, 61:10
thirdly thrust 86:6, 94:7, towards
19:22 4:4 97:3, 97:13, 90:10
thorough thwart 99:11, 142:10 town
33:20 14:6 today's 44:19, 145:14,
thoroughly tie 28:9, 94:13, 145:18, 146:15
59:3, 131:2 57:5 111:2, 120:2 track
thought time together 22:4, 29:21
44:6, 106:21, 5:1, 6:9, 6:10, 50:10, 53:16, traditional
108:19, 146:3 11:18, 17:16, 69:13, 119:8, 18:10, 18:12
thousands 27:18, 31:10, 144:2 trained
122:2 33:19, 34:1, told 27:3
threat 34:5, 36:12, 8:1, 41:13, transcribed
51:2, 76:4 37:2, 46:18, 46:6, 46:15, 1:22, 2:1,
threatened 62:22, 65:21, 70:14, 70:15, 155:6
61:13 70:5, 72:14, 71:7, 71:10, transcriber
threats 86:3, 99:19, 104:15, 106:10, 155:1
3:8, 4:22, 104:16, 104:17, 123:10, 144:4 transcript
11:17, 11:18, 106:11, 109:13, tom 85:18, 155:4
14:6, 15:14, 110:3, 110:11, 116:20, 119:22 transcription
27:19, 49:18, 124:1, 126:22, tomorrow 1:7
49:19, 49:22, 128:4, 129:8, 7:4, 45:17, transformation
72:4, 109:11, 131:6, 144:1, 78:12, 79:14, 28:17
117:4, 140:17 152:10, 153:16 93:2 transiting
three time's took 33:2
12:11, 14:10, 68:7 25:2, 45:7, transmission
15:8, 20:14, times 83:22, 96:7, 90:17
40:3, 57:10, 19:6, 36:22, 115:12 transparency
63:6, 71:22, 120:2, 134:15, tool
11:6, 13:1,
72:5, 72:15, 146:13, 147:1 5:19, 8:12, 14:19, 14:21,
99:5 tip-off 30:11, 91:2, 88:4, 88:13
threshold 13:22 133:14, 153:11 transpire
34:13 title tools 12:19
through 2:17, 2:20, 2:17, 2:21, treat
11:10, 12:4, 35:14, 87:2, 5:6, 5:15, 33:8
top 51:22
18:6, 21:15, 90:10, 127:11 trends
11:22, 12:21,
76:8
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tried 26:9, 99:13, 26:16, 29:3, undertake
111:17, 128:5, 117:4 29:9, 32:19, 77:16, 138:19
150:1 turned 34:9, 35:15, unencumbered
trip 73:8, 112:5 36:10, 53:14, 98:1
50:9, 124:19 twice 54:6, 55:16, unequivocally
troubling 43:11, 45:16 56:11, 66:13, 98:9
8:13 two 85:10, 86:16, unethical
true 7:17, 27:2, 86:19, 87:11, 40:7, 77:21
8:4, 8:6, 28:22, 30:2, 91:10, 99:5, unfair
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